Initial versionHEADmain

1 files changed, 64 insertions, 0 deletions

diff --git a/250/index.md b/250/index.md
new file mode 100644
index 0000000..3eb5467
--- /dev/null
+++ b/250/index.md
@@ -0,0 +1,64 @@
+Title: Add support to use an external password manager
+Author: rodarima
+Created: Sat, 17 Aug 2024 23:46:49 +0000
+State: open
+
+Dillo should be able to store user/password information (and potentially others)
+in a safe way, so that it is remembered in the future.
+
+A potential solution is to add support for external password managers so we
+don't need to implement it ourselves.
+
+See: https://xn--4pv.arzinfo.eu.org/Otyugh/p/1723455843.925137
+See: https://brutaldon.org/thread/112948402411922456
+
+
+--%--
+From: rodarima
+Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2024 19:18:11 +0000
+
+Firefox Sync can store passwords too with the ffsclient: https://github.com/Mikescher/firefox-sync-client
+
+--%--
+From: jn64
+Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2025 03:39:49 +0000
+
+I think these are separate concerns:
+
+1. "Dillo should be able to store user/password information."
+2. "Dillo should support external password manager(s)."
+
+### "Dillo should be able to store user/password information."
+
+1 is much more useful for a browser. It means anyone can start using Dillo,
+login to a website, maybe get a prompt "Do you want Dillo to save passwords?"
+and click yes, regardless if they use any password manager or even
+understand the concept.
+
+On mainstream Linux this might be done with [freedesktop Secret Service API](https://specifications.freedesktop.org/secret-service-spec/latest/)
+(see also [libsecret](https://gnome.pages.gitlab.gnome.org/libsecret/)). Users often have one of [gnome-keyring](https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/GNOME/Keyring) or [kwallet](https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Kwallet) (KDE Wallet),
+even if they don't use GNOME or KDE and don't explicitly use these as
+password managers, because they are used by other apps to store secrets
+(e.g. NetworkManager, Evolution mail client).
+
+(Just examples. I don't know if this is a good fit for Dillo.
+libsecret seems to be available in FreeBSD as well.)
+
+### "Dillo should support external password manager(s)."
+
+2 is much less useful. Users who already use a password manager
+probably wouldn't want to use a different one just for Dillo.
+
+Also, password manager users may not need or want this support.
+I use [KeepassXC](https://keepassxc.org), and I intentionally do not install its browser extension(s).
+
+I only save passwords into KeepassXC directly, and use passwords in other
+apps by invoking a global hotkey for KeepassXC to type a chosen password.
+This way all apps have the same workflow; browser, terminal, any window
+that can be focused and accepts keyboard input.
+
+I don't need to worry if any app has integration with my specific password
+manager, or if that integration is correct or maintained.
+
+So, I can already use my password manager with Dillo. I suspect most other
+intentional password manager users can also do this.